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SentinelX
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I always used to pre-exhaust albeit with Leg Extension before squats too. I take it you do a bit of cycling/running and knee specific warm up before this? Also, not sure I could do Calves before squats as might find they take a bit of stabilising support for the squats which might be important for you.
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| Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:12 am |
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Thomas
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Just an observation but could it be down to form on squats as pressure is pressure on the knees and 1000lb leg press is going to give way more stress on the joint than squatting 100kg for example ?
In answer to the question i would think things like non lock out reps , higher reps, shorter rest periods, pre exhaustion should all work.
Tryt this 100kg on the leg press and do 100 deep reps in one set.
Then load up 200kg and do 6 sets of ten reps with ten seconds rest between sets....all reps non lock out and do not lock out your knees or rack the press during the rest periods...all reps 4 seconds down 4 seconds up.
I have a mate who has damaged his lower back and he trains similar to the above and has very good legs.
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Thomas wrote: Just an observation but could it be down to form on squats as pressure is pressure on the knees and 1000lb leg press is going to give way more stress on the joint than squatting 100kg for example ?
In answer to the question i would think things like non lock out reps , higher reps, shorter rest periods, pre exhaustion should all work.
Tryt this 100kg on the leg press and do 100 deep reps in one set.
Then load up 200kg and do 6 sets of ten reps with ten seconds rest between sets....all reps non lock out and do not lock out your knees or rack the press during the rest periods...all reps 4 seconds down 4 seconds up.
I have a mate who has damaged his lower back and he trains similar to the above and has very good legs. Seriously have no 'bad' pain through the knees doing the big leg press. 100kg on square and my knees are screaming and there's no issue with quads so I have to stop. Ill def give the big reps option a go. Makes sense to mix it up and keep shocking legs to make them grow. Also we don't have enough plates in gym so most have to wait to bench and squat lol !! Tks !!! Any more tips gratefully taken on board
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crasher
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:43 pm Posts: 1858
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Great log fella. Really interesting and engaging stuff on the questions and feedback. 
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| Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:17 pm |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Ah I concocted a bulk made meal last night and its really tasty. This is so nb to be able to want to have your meal instead of bland crap
550 g chicken breasts cut into very small pieces 180g brown rice 180g broccoli
Dry fry chicken with a decent dash of nandos flavour of choice - I go for hot peri peri Boil rice for 30 min Micro broccoli for 4 min
Then put it all on a fry pan with a little water and some spices
Mix it up and divide into 3 containers to take to work
One at 10 , 1 and 4pm
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| Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:36 am |
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Roman
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:46 pm Posts: 129
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Sounds nice. Hot peri peri would kill me off though. I am real wuss regarding spicy food
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| Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:07 pm |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Roman wrote: Sounds nice. Hot peri peri would kill me off though. I am real wuss regarding spicy food Go for their other milder sauces for the flavour. This is obviously not that great for pre contest prep bit worthwhile if you trying to eat decent Missus told me she wants more of it so that's def a sign its tasty. We just had a baby 6 weeks ago and she wants to do a first time entry in bikini at the same show as me. Should be good for her cv as she's a level 3 gym instructor.
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Roman
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:46 pm Posts: 129
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Wow, congratulations. Both of you - will be one big family outing. Enjoy and all the best to you and your family
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| Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:58 am |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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So I can now see the progress . Frame is squaring out and the shape is poking through the fat that's slowly melting away. My scale weight is still around 223lb but am defeated and harder so I'm happy overall. Ill carry on this week like this and then ill be upping the game and clean calories for a 3 month bling cycle. I'm aiming for 230lb and to be a lot leaner. That will give me 4 months and 34 lb to lose to be under 90kg
Initially ill be doing 2 weeks of strength training between 4-6 reps and the odd 1 rep max. After that ill prob have a go at fst7
I might even man up and put a pic up of current condition
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| Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:22 am |
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morrigan456
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:26 am Posts: 1348 Location: Wolves UK
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Yeah go on, does it sound like im a wrong un if i say id love to see!?
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| Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:49 am |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Pic this morning - 178cm - 223lbs @ about 15% BF - As you can see i clearly need to add mass to my arms and hopefully try for lower insertion of my lats
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| Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:48 am |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Ok so I'm pretty much done with few months of conditioning and time for a few month of mass building . Obviously diet will sharpen up and ill be mixing up the training to max the results bulking-3593.html
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morrigan456
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Good work mate! Shoulders are lookking good already! Cant wait to see before and afters!!!
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| Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 am |
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Felt like shit at gym tonite. Just not with it or wanting to be there. And it was chest day... May be either
Body tired and wants a break Didn't eat we'll and was under fueled Am busting to change my routine and waiting for the squirrel fave nuts to arrive to motive me
What do you guys do on a down day ?
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Roman
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:46 pm Posts: 129
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Hey you still went though. I just accept its part of it. Can not be 100% every day. Dont dwell on it. Be good to myself.
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SentinelX
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:33 am Posts: 2542
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Stims, new music or just crank the handle and turn up, you will always feel better after a workout than before.
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Tonite w better. No chattingbullshit at all. Just in headphones and music getting to done. Not 100% but better. Didnt eat so well again today so it's prob lack of correct fuel
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SentinelX
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Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:33 am Posts: 2542
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I've been of this week too, stressing about work has killed my motivation but went today to nip it in the bud and will go tomorrow first thing and be back on track. We're all human chap 
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Well my motivation arrived last night.
Next week I begin to put some mass on
Intended solution is
Dbol 30 a day for 2 months Sust ml Monday Eqtest 600 .5 ml Monday and ml Thursday After 2 months will stop dbol and start gh 4iu Mon to fri for 3 months
Mass phase is April may June July and ill be looking for 3500-4000 kcal a day
I'm at 223lb and I want to come out at least 230 but harder than I am now
Then 3 months cutting to get to 196 lb and be in great stage shape
Can anyone critique my course for next fewer months ?
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Stookie
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 9:45 pm Posts: 99 Location: London
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Ok the add mass regime starts today. Started at 224.4lbs clean and dry this am. Want to get to at least 230 and be leaner through the clean eating . Nirvana I know ... I def feel the cold today and feel creaky through my joints. Its tough being 42 lol . Will fuel up properly today and blast a session tonite to continue the motivation. Just over 6 months to go ....no time like right now to get this shit together . Would hate to get to the show and have the 'if only' thoughts. I want to be the best I can be
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